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The truth about Asian investment banking

November 2006

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  • Hello Lee nice to read an article from the golden days of FX.
    I agree totally about your statement as a trader you just needed to get in the door and the rest was up to your animal instict. This seems today to be sadly missing. I have managed to duck and weave since 1973 and am still going but wow how this had changed.
    I personally think management and investors on the buy side have had a good time too long - nowadays its not always about making money it is also about holding what you have or cutting your losses fast to live for another day.
    Anyhow interesting stuff and keep it coming there too many rocket scientists but not enough rockets to fire out there.
    Regards James


    03 Nov 2006 12:00

    Author: James Round

  • Indeed it is quite a different world now. What can older FX dealers do in todays market? Point and click? Some got lucky and managed to stay with the bank in some capacity. Gone are the days where you could punch into Marshalls and say 'I'll give you everything'. We do make great text messages though. Gone are the days where you had so many prices in the market, at times you would forget you had one out there. Some raised some capital and started their own fund. I do miss the roundtables in Munich with BVBM. What I do miss most is making markets. Somehow I don't think the kids today could handle pricing ponies and scores all day long. Making a decent return is what we are supposed to do. One has to enjoy the race though... BIBI FN Chris

    04 Nov 2006 15:57

  • Hi Lee,
    Just wanted to say I love the column - you are probably old school, but then so what.
    That statement just goes to show they are feeling threatened by you.
    The FX product has not changed much just the method of execution.
    So you get a very much faster fill - but is it a better fill?
    In my opinion, the traders today are only pale shadows of those from previous years, where talent as opposed to an IT/Quant background was needed.
    This is because the systems are actually too good and I think my dog Storm could probably make money.
    Maybe we should have a talented Pets competition........


    07 Nov 2006 11:19

  • Funny you should mention your dog ... Perhaps there's something to this. I am reminded of a quote by TowerGroup VP Chris Skinner from back in April:

    “As a result of the use of algorithms, FX trading banks of the future will simply consist of a computer, a man and a dog. The computer will be there to handle the transactions and the dog to stop the man from interfering with its trading programs. The man’s job will be to feed the dog.”

    http://www.euromoney.com/article.asp?ArticleID=1018029


    07 Nov 2006 11:27

    Author: erica jeffery

  • I know your always looking for more news, how about this:-

    YoursMineShag.com - A New Platform for Today's FX Market

    November 9th 2006

    London: YoursMineShag? today announces the launch of a completely new FX trading

    platform to meet the needs for all participants in the huge global foreign

    exchange (FX) market. The platform, www.yoursmineshag.com, will provide a

    completely transparent trading arena for everyone who wants to manage their FX

    exposure or trade and speculate in the currency markets.



    YoursMineShag has been launched by Ron Smith-Galer, who has over 35-years of

    experience in the FX market. 'The proliferation of platforms, whether for the

    interbank market, sell-side trading community or whether supposedly as a true

    market place along exchange lines, have all been cobbled together from existing

    models. Almost without exception, none have taken a new approach to satisfying

    the complex needs of the vast range of participants in the modern market place,'

    says Smith-Galer.

    'We believe that after extensive consultation and market research, we have

    devised the platform, www.yoursmineshag.com, that fully meets those needs in a

    manner no other platform does. We will prove a fully transparent and open market

    which is completely fair to everyone,' adds Smith-Galer.

    Initially, www.yoursmineshag.com will work using a bilateral credit model, but

    it will be fully open to buy-side players and less-credit worthy banks through

    Prime Brokerage arrangements. However, once trades are given up, the true

    counterparty will be revealed, meaning the platform is completely transparent.

    'One of the biggest complaints we hear from the sell side is that anonymity

    doesn't work both ways. By making the platform transparent, we remove that issue

    while keeping it fully accessible,' says Smilth-Galer.

    Perhaps the platform's greatest innovation is the way in which it tackles

    latency. 'While


    09 Nov 2006 11:46

    Author: Sanjay Solanki

  • Perhaps the platform's greatest innovation is the way in which it tackles

    latency. 'While our IT infrastructure will ensure that we are one of the

    fastest, if not the fastest platforms out there, we will operate a choke so that

    nobody is discriminated against on the basis of location. Transaction and data

    messaging speeds will be extremely fast, but more importantly they will be the

    same for everyone trading on the platform,' says Smith-Galer.

    While the speed throttle is an obvious solution to the latency issue, another

    innovation developed to remove the problem is the WhatAreYouForMeShag? function.

    'Sometimes you have to look back to go forward,' says Smith-Galer. 'We will

    have sophisticated monitoring and anyone suspected of latency arbitraging will

    be obliged to quote whoever they have picked off a price back in what is

    considered the normal amount. This will be a legal obligation,' adds

    Smith-Galer.

    Furthermore, serial offenders will have to quote back more than once after

    receiving a follow up request via the HaveYouHadEnoughOrDoYouWantSomeMoreShag?

    function. 'These functions can be hard-coded by the user to look for what are

    disparagingly called snipers. The feedback we've received suggests they will be

    popular. If snipers are comfortable that they can handle the resultant risk

    they'll assume if they mess around too much with the big liquidity providers,

    they'll have nothing to worry about. For the liquidity providers, it is a

    comfort that they'll now be able to get even, rather than just mean. The end

    result will be a truly democratic market place for everyone.'

    For the moment, YoursMineShag does not intend to implement a centrally cleared

    model, although that is something it may examine if the market demands it. 'We

    believe that a Prime model will work initially. It allows the big liquidity

    providers to earn revenue for supporting the platform, while allowing sma


    09 Nov 2006 11:51

    Author: sanjay solanki

  • We've had a quick poll in the office and we all agree the logo makes you look like a contract killer - mean and moody and don't **** with me mate or you're toast!

    09 Nov 2006 18:42


FX this week: A rant from the old school

Well, time has certainly flown. This is already the fourth Weekly FiX column. Generally, the feedback has been good. However, I have picked up on a few mutterings of discontent.


Old school dealing, brought to you by Lee Oliver
Whispers reach me that some think I may be too old school and that I’m bringing the market into disrepute by highlighting some of its sharper practices. The first criticism is almost certainly true; as for the second, don’t shoot the messenger.

Anyway, what’s wrong with being old school, as long as you don’t constantly go on about how much better the markets used to be. My view is that although markets always evolve, they never really change.

While I’ve got my retrospective goggles on, the old UK Forex Association’s motto used to be: “Once a dealer, always a dealer.” In my case, it was more a case of: “Once a jub, always a jub.” But it’s always nice to hear that old friends are still doing well, proving the truth of the motto. I was pleased to hear that Mike Williams has just been appointed as chief executive of trading portal Hotspot FX. In his day, Mike was one of the best spot FX brokers in the market. He also knew how to entertain royally and I enjoyed many a beer at the bar, Morgan Williams in New York, that he opened as a sideline.

Mike is 53 years old and I bet if he was starting out today he wouldn’t even get his foot in the door. The FX market used to be a meritocracy, and almost anyone could do well in it, provided you were lucky enough to get started. Generally, it didn’t matter at what age you’d left school or what qualifications you had. The market is not like that any more. Nowadays, it seems that the minimum requirement is a pointy head and a PhD. But as a few banks and hedge funds are now finding out, being good at reading books doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re good at trading.

I could have told you this years ago. I once had an industrial psychologist sit next to me for the best part of six months in an attempt to devise some kind of psychometric test to identify what made a good dealer. He never succeeded, which might be testament to the fact that he was a rubbish psychologist or, more likely, that I was an awful dealer.

Another possible explanation is that what makes a good dealer is not quantifiable. My view is that a true dealer could trade anything. I’ve been told that programmes can do this as well, with a bit of minor tweaking. Like I said, the market is always evolving, but it never really changes.

2006 – a tough year

There’s been widespread reporting of how big the 2006 bonus pool is going to be. I’m wondering whether this will prove true for those involved in FX. Looking from the outside, this year looks as if it has been tough.

Major currencies have been range-bound, the dollar has not fallen out of bed as was widely predicted would happen, and carry trades have continued to rule the roost, even though there were a couple of nasty fall outs, such as in Iceland and Turkey (see below). Option traders have been telling me that as well as implied volatilities being at historically low levels, many European corporates have shied away from anything too exotic or structured as a continuing result of the IAS 39 accounting standard. In short, there’s not been too much for the market to get its teeth into. From what I hear, what money has been made all got banked in the first six months of the year. Since then, the job has been to try to hold on to it, which not everyone has succeeded in doing.

On the plus side, even though there has been very little movement, volumes still seem to be increasing. This probably means that those players that can capture a minuscule spread a grillion times a day will be the winners this year. Everyone else will be struggling. However, I understand that one top-10 Euromoney poll bank is already looking for a new global head of options, suggesting that it hasn’t done as well this year as it would have hoped.

Trouble in paradise?

Last week I wrote about some interesting goings-on at a small hedge fund called JDFX. Rumours are now doing the rounds that the far bigger and higher-profile BlueCrest has also taken a bit of bath recently. The buzz is that a trader in its Newport Beach office has just handed back his entire year’s profits. Worse for the fund is that someone has dropped considerably more in its London office.

I sent an email to Mike Platt, BlueCrest’s founder and chief executive, asking him whether the gossip was true and I have to say I was a little amazed (and impressed) that he replied.

“We do not usually comment on market gossip, but this is incorrect. London FX trading is profitable and on target this year. There were no losses in FX in Newport Beach,” says Platt.

However, he does admit that one trader, who is believed to have been based in California, has left the company after losing some money. He also concedes that life was not all sweet in Newport Beach. “The office was very marginal for us. In fact, it was a loss maker on a costs and overheads basis, so we decided to reduce management workload and relocate certain staff back to London,” he adds.

“I’m just really surprised that anyone noticed this minor bit of housekeeping at BlueCrest. As Oscar Wilde said, I suppose: ‘There is only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about,’ ” he concludes.

Successful funds the size of BlueCrest will always attract attention, and given their normal secrecy it is inevitable that the merest hint of a problem will lead to an explosion of rumours, especially given the paranoia following the rapid demise of Amaranth earlier this year.

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